Spielberg confirms 'Indiana Jones 4 ' to follow 'Munich'

I would love to see Indy and the Fate of Atlantis - like the old adventure game from LucasArts

Please don't ruin this great series Spielberg! That's my only concern, this could either turn out to be very good or very very bad.

Supposedly (from what I heard) is that good ole Indy goes on one last post WWII quest and has a half-brother he never knew about competing for this item of desire.

Soon after, hangs it up. Gonna have to with Harrison Ford looking older than Sean Connery.

Phew! Good to know that it wasn't supposed to precede 'Munich.' Here's hoping they make it a good one. And maybe if we're really lucky, George will give us a CGI Shortround...

I don't trust George Lucas anymore. His handling of Star Wars has proven that he can't write romance dialogue, dramatic dialogue, or funny dialogue. I don't trust him to write action, or keep the Indy Spirit alive. Of course, a BS explanation of how Indy can ever be hurt, what with having sipped from the cup of Christ, will be in order...

Of course, a BS explanation of how Indy can ever be hurt, what with having sipped from the cup of Christ, will be in order...

I thought that having sipped from the grail would only provide eternal life within the confines of that citadel. He lost that benefit by crossing the seal. (They made a pretty big deal about that, if I remember correctly.)

As for George Lucas, I tend to believe that the only thing that changed was the 'feel' of rubber puppets and costumes vs. CG effects. I think the former lent the series something that CG took away. With that said, I loved Revenge of the Sith and found Attack of the Clones to be good enough to watch several times. I'll give you Phantom Menace and won't attempt to defend it.

I thought that having sipped from the grail would only provide eternal life within the confines of that citadel. He lost that benefit by crossing the seal. (They made a pretty big deal about that, if I remember correctly.)

I always thought the big deal was just the cup itself crossing the seal. I could be wrong, though. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to watch all three movies again to find out. (Shhh...)

As for George Lucas, I tend to believe that the only thing that changed was the 'feel' of rubber puppets and costumes vs. CG effects. I think the former lent the series something that CG took away. With that said, I loved Revenge of the Sith and found Attack of the Clones to be good enough to watch several times. I'll give you Phantom Menace and won't attempt to defend it.

"You're so beautiful."
"It's because I'm so in love with you."
"No, it's because I'm so in love with you."

Also, let's go into lightsaber balance a bit. Attack of the Clones, Yoda is barely a match for Dooku. Revenge of the Sith, Dooku nearly kills Obi-Wan, Yoda holds the Emperor off (who is a master of close-combat lightsaber dueling and manages to hold off Mace Windu for a time) while Anakin pounds Dooku into the ground. But at the same time, Obi-Wan is capable of sustaining a long, drawn-out battle with Anakin, who does to to Dooku what Dooku did to Obi-Wan, and in the end, Anakin loses.

And let's not even go into Lucas' failure to keep up with Joseph Campbell's revision of the Force, in the first three movies, of basically smacking him and telling him that it shouldn't work like that.

Oh, they were decent, cinematically, but Lucas failed at writing dialogue and keeping continuity. And I don't want that to happen to Indy.

Perhaps Anakin wasn't fighting Obi-Wan as hard as he could have been? I would think that "some" shred of friendship would make it hard to do so. You have to remember, Obi-Wan did what he did to Anakin because he actual "had" control of his emotions. He was able to separate his friendship from the fact that Anakin was suddenly a pawn of the Emperor. (The fact that he couldn't bring himself to kill Anakin is when he was most "like" Anakin. Anakin was never able to control his emotions and it seem plausible to me that the same emotions that allowed him to turn on the Jedi are the very emotions that wouldn't allow him to take Obi-Wan out like a @!$%#.

I am pretty excited abou this, I think it should be pretty good. As long as they keep Harrison Ford as the main role, if they have him in the beggining and pass off the story then I'll be pissed, but I hope that doesnt happen

atoast writes:

I would love to see Indy and the Fate of Atlantis - like the old adventure game from LucasArts
# Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:29 AM EST

Exactly what I tough it would be cool!

Funny thing about the "older looking than Connery" comment: Connery nearly didn't do IJ3 because he is only 12 (or thereabouts) years older than Ford, and didn't think it would work.

I guess it's all about how grey/white your hair is...

Don't worry Lucas isn't writing the screenplay, according to to IMDB. They list Jeff Nathanson as the writer for the screenplay, and have George down for the story and characters. Lucas' questionable dialogue writing abilities aside, he does know how to craft a fun and compelling story.

Now we just have to hope Catch Me If You Can is more representative of Nathanson's work than Speed 2.

Don't worry Lucas isn't writing the screenplay, according to to IMDB. They list Jeff Nathanson as the writer for the screenplay, and have George down for the story and characters. Lucas' questionable dialogue writing abilities aside, he does know how to craft a fun and compelling story.

In addition, Lucas has never written any of the Indiana Jones movies. It's interesting, actually, to look at Lucas's writing involvement in the Star Wars films and compare it to their quality:

Not written by Lucas: The Empire Strikes Back

Written by Lucas with (an)other writer(s): Return of the Jedi Star Wars: Episode II -- Attack of the Clones

Written solely by Lucas: Star Wars Star Wars: Episode I -- The Phantom Menace Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith

And then when you factor in which films he didn't direct (The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi) it seems to say, at least to me, that the less direct involvement Lucas has, the better the film is. His strength, it would seem, is more on the big picture level: story, history, story arc, etc. The minutiae--dialogue, acting, character development, political intrigue--are better left to another craftsman.

Having said all that, it seems that Indy IV is probably in good hands.

I heard that the fight scenes in Firewall (which I saw) were lame because they had to shoot around Harrison Ford's "turkey neck." I always look on reports of Indiana Jones 4 the same way I look at reports of which major star wants to play Superman. Just more false public relations. I have a script for Indiana Jones and the Sons of Darkness from about 1997. It starts with the death his father and ends with revenge. It was about as shallow as Indiana Jones 2. I always doubt Harrison Ford will approve the script. He keeps choking Spielberg time and time again with script approval.

And, it seems, Jurassic Park IV will follow Indy IV. Because, apparently the world needs another Jurassic Park movie. And why would Spielberg come back to the franchise after he stepped away for part III?